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Jay-Z: Not a 21st-Century Homer

Published: Monday, October 31, 2011

Updated: Monday, October 31, 2011 22:10

Twice per week, 134 undergraduates proceed into class to discuss the sociology on hip-hop, viewed through the lens on rap person Jay-Z. When I initially heard about the course, I thought it perhaps a clever, ironic dig at modern sociological methodology and the dismal state of contemporary musical culture. As such, I was stunned to learn that this is a genuine academic offering in Georgetown College, a school that purports to be intellectually serious and maintain a commitment to real liberal education.

The syllabus, which prudently drops the rather extravagant original subtitle of the course as "Urban Theodicy," gives a broad outline of the class structure, covering literary analysis, race relations and the "sociology of knowledge" manifest in the rapper's life and compositions. The prism through which this prospect wide and various is viewed is the work of one Shawn Carter, who goes by the stage name of Jay-Z.

Carter represents an element of modern American society that many find crude and unpleasant, so it is important to understand the viewpoint of this particular party. It is less appropriate, however, to spend an entire course on this material and pretend that it fulfills a serious academic purpose.

Perhaps, though, I protest too much. Perhaps there is some scholarly merit in this class and too much rigidity in my own conception of the liberal arts. After observing a few class sessions, however, I remain convinced that the course cannot stand intellectual muster.

The fundamental reason why we ostensibly study Jay-Z is because of his "important cultural impact," replete with an ordered hierarchy of discipline, politics and excellence. Now, his conception of excellence may or may not accord with Ciceronian virtus, but even this can be bemusedly contemplated until the claim is uttered that he is in some way an inheritor of the great Homeric tradition.

"Were he alive during the period of ancient Greece," the course professor charges, Carter "would be regarded as a god in terms of literary and poetic expression." This is poppycock. The claim is so wildly risible that it almost single-handedly discredits the entire project. The proposition that Jay-Z is in the same galaxy as — much less the heir to — the preeminent epic poet of human history represents a basic misapprehension of either Jay-Z's importance or the development of Western thought and literature over 2,500 years.

Who honestly thinks that the productions of Carter can compare in any way, shape or form with the Homeric corpus? The great bard inclines toward the divine; he brings to light much of the character of human nature and puts man in communion with higher things. Rap music frolics in the gutter, resplendent in vulgarity and the most crass of man's wants.

Charlton Heston once read out the lyrics of a hip-hop song called "Cop Killer" at a record company's shareholder meeting. Those words have no place on these pages, and likewise no place in serious scholarship. As Allan Bloom, one of the most eminent critics and observers of modern life and education noted, this type of music has "only one appeal, a barbaric appeal to sexual desire," to inflame the base emotions, which proceeds to do nothing less than "ruin the imagination of young people and make it very difficult for them to have a passionate relationship to the art and thought that are the substance of liberal education."

The stakes of this type of class, then, are no small matter. It speaks volumes that we engage in the beat of Carter's pseudo-music while we scrounge to find serious academic offerings on Beethoven and Liszt. We dissect the lyrics of "Big Pimpin‘," but we don't read Spenser or Sophocles closely. Our pedagogical commitments are disordered, and I think that in our heart of hearts we know this.

When I asked a peer what class I was sitting in on, with a bit of embarrassment, she sheepishly admitted that it was "sociology … of hip hop." Her blush confirmed what we all know: At this ancient school, with the accumulated wisdom of the ages, we should not be spending our time in sorry endeavors.

We want to learn what is real and important to the human person, and we understand that Jay-Z is not Homer; he is not a "literary god," and he is ultimately unworthy of this place and this noble mission. If there is one benefit of this class, though, it is that it brings up the civilizational question of what we will bequeath two millennia hence to students: Presenting the majesty of the "Iliad" or the sad tale of Carter's sound and fury.

Stephen Wu is a junior in the College.

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22 comments

Anonymous
Fri Nov 25 2011 16:23
The people deriding Wu for his supposed racism aren't attacking the points made in the article. Is the course in the Black Studies department or the Sociology department?
Anonymous
Tue Nov 8 2011 07:44
As Henry Kissinger said of the Iran/Iraq war, it's a pity both sides of this debate can't lose. This op-ed reads like a parody of pretentious campus conservatism, and I don't think hip-hop is necessarily an illegitimate subject of academic inquiry. On the other hand, Dyson is a self-promoting clown who's mostly famous for going on TV and speaking in rhymes. If someone wanted to write a PhD dissertation about hip-hop I wouldn't object, but I do doubt the academic merits of an entire undergraduate class of 150 19 year olds focused solely on rap. Do the students have any background in sociology, literature, or music to help them put Jay-Z in context? Or is it just a chance for Dyson to deliver a biweekly politicized lecture about how the white man oppresses black folks, and earnest Georgetown sophomores to feel good about themselves for sitting through it and nodding thoughtfully? I'm guessing the latter.
Brandon
Sun Nov 6 2011 13:51
Some of these comments confirm Mr. Wu's conclusion that this class (and most, in my opinion, of modern academia is sub-intellectual.
Anonymous
Thu Nov 3 2011 22:45
Excellent article. Someone has to fight back against the degradation of higher education and I'm glad someone as perspicacious as you is doing so. Bloom's critique of the musical obsessions of his generation's youth is as germane now as it was then. Artists like Jay Z and Mick Jagger (Bloom's main target) might have (or have had) talent in a technical sense, but the substance of their "work" is beneath an academic setting dedicated to true and meaningful education. It offers nothing insightful or deep about the human condition and corrupts sound morals. Your peers label you a racist for bringing these important considerations to light while failing to realize that if anyone is bigoted it is them. The criticism they heap on you presupposes that you're a racist, which facilitates their goal of suppressing anyone who doesn't conform to their nihilistic outlook. It is a great irony that partisans of "openness", which dominates university campuses these days, are the most close-minded and oppressive of all.
Anonymous
Thu Nov 3 2011 21:14
Rap music might be interesting to study as a sociology study -- it shows the sentiment in urban American. However I don't know how much intrinsic value it has by itself. The lyrics may represent reality, but they set a terrible example of what is "cool." To the extent that listeners idealize the actions that rappers sing about, we should condemn rap music.
Nothing is right with killing police, doing drugs, objectifying women, or using the N word.
Anonymous
Thu Nov 3 2011 20:23
"Rap music frolics in the gutter, resplendent in vulgarity and the most crass of man's wants." Has the writer read any Catullus, or versed himself in Greek mythology, or really, the bulk of Ancient Greek or Roman comedy? D*ck jokes abound!

The writer resorts to an uncritical namecheck of The Greatest Hits of Western Civ (without considering precisely why and how they got into the canon) while blindly denigrating an entire musical genre, which, whether the author likes it or not, has been an essential part of our contemporary cultural landscape for the past 25-30 years, and is therefore worthy of--yes--a sociology class.

Andrew
Thu Nov 3 2011 16:52
Anonymous,
There is nothing wrong with criticizing any Georgetown professor, regardless of his or her race. But Stephen Wu is not really engaging in a critical debate with Dr. Dyson on any point. Instead he refuses to consider the legitimacy of Dyson's course and his substantial research on hip-hop from the start, because he discounts hip-hop as a respectable form of expression. He supports a traditional academic cannon that privileges dead white European males and he uses derogatory slights like "crass" and "frolics in the gutter" to deride contemporary black social and political discourse.
Anonymous
Thu Nov 3 2011 15:58
It's apparently unbelievable, according to Andrew Waddell, that a student would have the gall to criticize one of our sainted Georgetown professors, even *gasp* a black professor! Anyone who does that must be racist!
Sam Solomon
Thu Nov 3 2011 15:51
It is obvious that you are not familiar with the works of Jay-Z, but your knowledge of Homer's works is also dubious. The Iliad recounts the bloody battles of the siege of Troy, and the Odyssey depicts more than a little of "the most crass of man's wants." Through his music, Jay-Z paints a picture of urban poverty that is accessible to a mass audience. The grandiloquence of this article cannot mask its faulty premises.
Anonymous
Thu Nov 3 2011 11:24
Foolishly, I believed that the author of the op-ed piece would have quoted Bloom correctly. I was wrong. Here is Bloom's quote from "The Closing of the American Mind" (1987):

"But rock music has one appeal only, a barbaric appeal, to sexual desire-not love, not eros, but sexual desire undeveloped and untutored."

So after all Bloom was talking about rock, not rap. At worst, he just sounds like an old crankypants.

However, I would agree with the commenter below that the op-ed columnist construed Bloom's words with his own that - accidental or otherwise - are possessed of racial overtones.

Ryan
Wed Nov 2 2011 22:30
I wrote a lengthy response to this article but have decided that my efforts should not surpass that of the "journalist." As a student in the class I will say that our intellectual pursuit is as strong and valid as that of any class that I have taken here. The "journalist's" report here does not reflect the true nature of the work that we do and is filled with numerous exaggerations and flat out untruths. Hip-hop deserves to be studied in the academy for the very bias that this "journalist" and the "experts" he provides display. Hip-hop is about love, community, and understanding at it's core. I wonder why other classes have not been put under the same scrutiny that that this one has. Overall, this is poorly written and poorly researched...the Hoya and our community deserve better reporting.
Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 22:03
I really like the commenters who bust out the "obfuscatory academic jargon" to criticize this "jeremiad in defense of some fantasyland socio-academic order."
The next article, you're gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talking about the prerevolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.
Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 20:44
Stephen,
You write that the notion that Jay Z is "in some way an inheritor of the great Homeric tradition" is laughable, but you don't explain what that tradition is. Milman Parry demonstrated as far back as the 1920s that the Homeric poems were initially part of an oral tradition, and the Greeks even had a whole profession devoted to the recitation of these works (rhapsodes). If you are referring to the Homeric tradition of orally recited poetry, then hip hop is really the only modern inheritor of this Greek tradition, aside from maybe slam poetry.

Or maybe you were just referring to the topics of human interest that Homer's verses address. Plato wrote of Homer: "Is not war his great argument? and does he not speak of human society and of intercourse of men, good and bad, skilled and unskilled?"

Here's Jay Z from "Renegade":
"Motherf***ers say that I'm foolish, I only talk about jewels
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothing, I made something doing
What I do, through and through and I gave you the news with a twist it's just his ghetto point of view
The renegade you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they mums
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies n****s crotched over
Mommy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he's not around now how that sound to ya, jot it down"

So conflict, human suffering, social inequality... None of this rings a bell?

Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 20:15
I find it interesting that while these commenters denounce Mr. Wu for a fallacious "appeal to authority", their entire point rests on ad hominem arguments. First, they call him racist in an attempt to make his point seem beyond the pale of reasonable discussion, and then they challenge his qualification to speak because, after all, he's just a college student; what does he know? Disapproving of something related to black culture does not make you racist, and being a college student does not invalidate your arguments.

Mr. Wu, to be honest, does not make a great argument against it, but rap music should not be the subject of college courses. The obscene poems cited by the last commenter are studied because the sources we have on Classical culture are limited; if people were studying our culture 2000 years later and they turned up a compendium of Jay-Z's lyrics as part of the few surviving records, I would expect they'd study those, too. But the fact is that we have a wealth of better ways to study our own culture than by examining Jay-Z's lyrics. While these might be useful when taken as part of a broad spectrum of indicators about the state of our culture, there is no reason to dedicate an entire semester to them, especially not in an introductory-level course.

The real problem, though, is the sorry state of the entire discipline of sociology, which has never been put on a proper foundation. I'm sure the actual reason that there are 134 students in that class is that it gives them a free period they can "BS" their way through with any sort of interpretation they want, with no objective standards.

I myself like disco music, but that doesn't mean I should be able to get college credit for coming up with "creative" interpretations of the lyrics of "I Should Be So Lucky" by Kylie Minogue. I suppose that makes me racist against Australians.

Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 14:10
"After observing a few class sessions, however, I remain convinced that the course cannot stand intellectual muster."
"Rap music frolics in the gutter, resplendent in vulgarity and the most crass of man's wants."
"Those words have no place on these pages, and likewise no place in serious scholarship."
-from Mr. Wu's article

"Pale skins I like, but honey-coloured more,
And blond and brunette boys I both adore.
I never blackball brown eyes, but above
All, eyes of scintillating black I love."
-Strato Epigram V

"That ass is the metrical equivalent
of cash I discovered once by accident."
-Strato Ep. VI

"Loose girls lose their grip. They wear cheap scent.
Their kisses aren't sincere or innocent.
Sweet smut is one thing they're no good at talking.
Their looks are sly. The worst is a bluestocking.
Moreover, fundamentally they're cold;
They've nothing for a groping hand to hold."
-Strato Ep. VII

"Diodorus, boys' things come in three
Shapes and sizes; learn them handily:
When unstripped it's a dick
But when stiff it's a prick:
Wanked, you know what its nickname must be."
-Strato Ep. III

"A twelve-year-old looks fetching in his prime,
Thirteen's an even more beguiling time.
That lusty bloom blows sweeter at fourteen:
Sexier yet a boy just turned fifteen.
The sixteenth year seems perfectly divine,
And seventeen is Jove's tidbit, not mine.
But if you fall for older fellows, that
Suggests child's play no more but tit-for-tat."
-Strato Ep. IV

All from Puerilities by Daryl Hine

There are two points, among many others, which I will address: Mr. Wu's highlighting of a course on Jay-Z and his tone.

Mr. Wu should be careful in his singling out of Rap music as "lacking intellectual muster," "frolicking in the gutter," or any other judgment without fully considering the varied spectrum of the human experience. When we begin to discriminate based on values and do not apply them equally, we make the mistake of (sometimes accidental) racism and harmful discrimination. Mr. Wu does not consider the pedophilia of the ancient Greek poems above worth mention, only what he saw in a few classes on Jay-Z. A. Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard in the 1920s, tried to exclude Jews because "Jews cheat." When others objected saying Christians can cheat as well, Lowell replied, "You're changing the subject, I'm talking about Jews."

Mr. Wu, intent aside, has committed a similar crime of ignorant discrimination here. He does not attack courses on Harry Potter or Star Trek, prominent in "White" culture, Mr. Wu only attacks those on the contributions of a Black artist using a predominately Black medium. Mr. Wu levels claims of vulgarity without applying his undefined definition of "vulgarity" to ancient Greek or even modern literature.

Mr. Wu wrote in another article: "True pluralism doesn't comes (sic) from merely acknowledging differences, but trying to order those differences in accordance with some conception of the good society, a concept basically unknown to those who would engineer an omni-tolerant utopia."

Putting aside Mr. Wu's claim that he knows what is known or unknown to others, it is important, as Mr. Wu states, to order the world with a conception of "the good society." However what is Mr. Wu's good society? Is it one in which an over-confident college student applies his undefined definitions to make value judgments unevenly against different art forms? Is it a society in which someone who hasn't even graduated from college determines what "stands intellectual muster?"

Socrates schools us in the Euthyphro to trust only those who are experts in their art. I think Jay-Z would reply, "Au contraire n***a, I am here 'cause I earned the s**t / by ridin' out, when n****z had learner's permit." (from "Some People Hate")

Mr. Wu, you still have your learner's permit.

msaba
Wed Nov 2 2011 12:35
For someone so well-versed in obfuscatory academic jargon, the author seems completely unable to recognize the 'appeal to authority' fallacy. It takes no effort to say that the Greek canon is important, they're already accepted as the founding texts of Western thought. But it takes genuine intellectual rigor (and open-mindedness) to examine Jay-Z's work as you would a poem or text, and to critically reflect on what Carter's music (and its popularity) says about the American experience.

Really, you give the whole game away with your lines about how rap 'frolics in the gutter.' The crux of your sweeping indictment of hip-hop as a genre rests on some very hoary and racist assumptions about people of color.

Let me put it more succinctly: Who is really going to be remembered by history? Jay-Z, the chronicler of America's urban decay, or Stephen Wu, the Georgetown grad who scribbled this jeremiad in defense of some fantasyland socio-academic order?

Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 10:10
We should just let Jay do the talking here.

There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
N****; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life

Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 10:03
The courses you suggest, dear sir, are offered. Unfortunately they don't garner nearly 150 registrants. I don't think it was one of your highly regarded ancient philosophers that said this, but "the proof is in the pudding". Your determination of the content of a course based on a few unauthorized attendances not only lacks journalistic integrity but shows that perhaps you are the one that needs to open your mind. Rap covers more than just sex. But, on that point, doesn't every other musical genre often enable mildly pornographic lyrics to prove points and evoke emotion. Isn't the point of education to explore thoughts, ideas and cultures outside of your own experience in a effort to gain a better understanding of them? I have a suggestion, earn a Phd., write 10 books, get your self listed on a "top 100" list on any topic and then pitch your Beethoven class to the university. Then maybe you will understand the true meaning of relevant and meaniful teaching as Dr. Dyson does.
Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 05:45
Dear Sir,

I would suggest that you, without delay, extract the great sequoia from your honorable bunghole.

Sincerely,

Aristophanes

Anonymous
Wed Nov 2 2011 00:17
I find it interesting that the writer of this article has a problem with this class, but no issue with classes like "Philosophy of Star Trek" or the class that deals with "Harry Potter". What is the issue with utilizing modern topics, artists, characters, and mediums to engage in discussion about sociology. I took Professor Dyson's class last fall, and my issue with the class was not the content (looking at the history, sociology and art of rap), rather the ignorance that tends to spew out of students that cannot step out of their privileged lives to understand the story, struggle, transcendence and triumph of rap artists. Obviously there are rap songs that offer nothing to society or students attending a prestigious university, but to discredit the work of Jay-Z, what it represents and the fact that his work can be used as a diving board into broader and imperative social issues is completely ignorant. I understand that this is an editorial section of the "The Hoya",but is it really respectful and up to Georgetown's standards to discredit an entire course that a professor has prepared and that has been approved by the school? Really? Your ignorance is neither amusing nor entertaining. I would hate to bring up the term racist, but honestly, that is the most prominent adjective that comes to my mind. Maybe it's time that you open yours.




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