Georgetown Must Convince Its Students That It Cares
Now that we’re seniors, I find that my friends and I are reflecting on our Georgetown experiences more and more. Even with a semester left, we see the writing on the wall.
Our time on the Hilltop is nearly over.
We seem to have settled on one issue: Does Georgetown care about its students?
Many have decided that no, Georgetown is not particularly invested in the experiences of its undergraduates.
Without qualification, I can say that many members of Georgetown’s administration and faculty do care about students. From my own personal experiences, I know that Dan Porterfield, senior vice president for strategic development, Fr. Ryan Maher, S.J., assistant dean of the College and Todd Olson — yes, even Mr. Keg Ban himself — care about students and the quality of their time here at Georgetown. So, too, does JT III. I also know by word-of-mouth that Jim O’Donnell, our provost, and John Q. Pierce, our registrar, are also deeply invested in the lives of Georgetown students.
Some pretty powerful folks mentioned in that last paragraph, yet this feeling persists.
Why?
For one, students are far too often rubbed the wrong way by impersonal, even unfriendly, experiences with services like the Student Health Center, Housing and Facilities. They feel as though these operations should exist to help students, yet students are treated like an unwelcome burden when they require that help.
For another, many students, especially those in the College, are dissatisfied with academic advising. Advisers are spread far too thin. If a student has an urgent issue, he or she can make an appointment, but there is little regular communication. During preregistration, all you need to do is send your adviser a quick e-mail, and poof, you’re done.
To be sure, students can do a better job of seeking out guidance, but it is comforting to be approached by the university to make sure everything is going well.
A third reason why students may feel as though the university does not care is the notion of accountability. We are held accountable for our homework, our exams, our dorm rooms, our behavior at parties. The university doesn’t always hold itself to the same standards. On larger initiatives, such as the Davis Center and Epicurean & Co., it rarely meets deadlines. On smaller ones, like a facilities work request, it can take far too long to get the help you need. All the while, the university operates under a maddening cloak of secrecy and rarely takes the time to explain itself. I’m looking at you, DPS.
Fourth and finally, I think students feel that the university doesn’t care because they feel that its president doesn’t care.
John J. DeGioia gets a bum rap sometimes. By most accounts, he is a good fundraiser — which is crucial — and has a vision for Georgetown’s place in the world, which in the 21st century, is important. He helps the university in many, many ways.
But as far as I can tell, his interaction with students is minimal. He meets with the student press once per semester. He teaches, but he mostly lectures and leaves the other stuff to a TA. When something huge happens, like last year’s hate crime, he makes a public appearance and speaks to students, but on an everyday basis, he’s invisible.
I think he went to Leo’s once or twice with GUSA — there was a photo-op to prove it — but he never just shows up to shoot the breeze. I’ve heard he attends basketball games, but I don’t know that he has ever come over to the student section to say hello. He is on campus an awful lot, but I’ve never heard of him just chit-chatting with students. Maybe he does these things, but no one I know has ever seen it.
Serving as the president of Georgetown is an extraordinary responsibility. I don’t believe that it is unfair to expect our president not only to fundraise and set a vision for a global university, but also to spend more time with students. The leader sets the tone, and until DeGioia falls in line, no one else can be expected to follow suit.
I’m not sure where exactly I come down on all of this. Like I said above, I know there are individuals who care about students, and I wonder how exactly that is different from the university as a whole caring about its students.
But I also agree with each of the specific grievances I’ve just outlined, and more than anything, I think the university needs to do something about this perception that it doesn’t care.
So, it’s time for Georgetown to get its act together. I know this isn’t easy, and I apologize for sounding preachy, but let’s bring change to our part of Washington.
Get rid of the secrecy. Start explaining yourself, Georgetown. You ask your students to be accountable; start doing the same.
Emphasize courtesy. I know it sounds corny, but ask your employees to be a bit more cognizant of how they speak to and treat students. I’d be willing to bet that students will reciprocate.
Figure out a better advising system. I know, it will almost certainly cost money, and Georgetown doesn’t have a lot of that. Having more comprehensive advising will require a creative solution, and I cannot say that I have a good one. For starters, though, instead of having freshman, sophomore, junior and senior deans, why not have deans that follow a set of students for four years?
Finally, Dr. DeGioia, you need to engage your students more. Make sure you are at Mr. Georgetown, Rangila, Cherry Tree Massacre and the Syracuse basketball game. And don’t just be there. Congratulate the performers. Mingle with the crowd. Ask us how our Georgetown experience has been. I realize this is adding to what must be an already brutal schedule, but your job demands it.
Most of the students with whom I have spoken say that, despite it all, they’ve enjoyed their Georgetown experience tremendously. For all its flaws, we have a beautiful campus, smart, engaged, fun students, talented professors and a true asset in our D.C. location. But we feel connections to the people we have met here, not the institution itself. For that to happen, students need to feel like the institution cares.
Bailey Heaps is a senior in the College and the outgoing editor in chief of THE HOYA. He can be reached at heaps@thehoya.com


Nov 14 2008 at 1:58 p.m.
I agree - I've loved my time at Georgetown, but I have never been as angry as the time I called the health center to schedule an appointment. They were closing at 4:30 that day, and I called at 3:45 to make sure I talked to somebody.
Instead, I was put on hold for 45 minutes and then hung up on.
Nov 14 2008 at 6:30 p.m.
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments about Dr. DeGioia. He needs to start engaging students more. The other morning I passed him outside of Lauinger and had to say "good morning" to him, a greeting he barely returned. He had made eye contact with me, but wasn't going to say anything at all. That borders on rude. How hard is it to talk with students?!
Nov 14 2008 at 8:36 p.m.
As much as undergraduates want to believe they are the only students at Georgetown that matter, President DeGioia is the head of a university that actually has more graduate students than undergrads. Before making ridiculous criticisms of our President not spending enough time helping the university, take a second to realize you have no idea what makes up President DeGioia's daily schedule. He is not some all-knowing person that can manage every detail of an entity as large as Georgetown. Once again, The Hoya is showing just how ungrateful and naive Georgetown students can be.
Nov 14 2008 at 10:40 p.m.
will,
Yes DeGioia's schedule is very busy, i am sure. and yes there are more grad students than undergrad, but this university's national identity is its undergraduate programs. The schedule of a president of any university should be filled first with things that meet the needs of ALL the students, then on whatever else he may have to do.
during my three years on campus and 21 year living in DC with a parent who is a Georgetown Faculty member, i have come to the conclusion that the top administration's first priority is to increase public perception of the university nationally and internationally and not to make student's experiences the best they can be. the perfect example is that over the past few years the university has hired world renowned professors who teach few classes to few students, are paid very high salaries, and impress only other academics, but at the same time the maps around campus are over ten years out of date (they claim there is still baseball field on campus and that the SWQ does not exist)
The majority of the professors on campus are amazing. they engage students, and push them to become great leaders. But this enthusiasm for student life has not translated to the administration. At the very least the administration has poorly communicated its dedication to students.
Nov 15 2008 at 12:46 p.m.
As with any business or organization, it all starts with the quality of your employees. I'm not talking about the faculty or the president, but the next time you have a chance take a good look at the rest of the employees that make up the prestigious Georgetown University. The Parking Garage Attendants, Leo's, Construction Workers, Unions, Facilities, DPS, Go-Card, Health Center etc...
They are all lazy & rude people that have been "juiced in" with jobs for over 20 years. Some of them have been around since the 1960's. All I ever see them do is waste time, order students around, drive golf carts, smoke ciggs and look for free meals at Leo's & Levy.
It all starts at the base. If these people are not doing their jobs it hurts everyone else including staff, students and even our parents. My brother goes to Clemson and I never see workers on campus like that when I visit...never.
Nov 15 2008 at 8:48 p.m.
At the London School of Economics, its director (ie president in American lingo), Sir Howard Davies, spoke in front of the Students' Union meeting twice per term and left himself open to any and all questions from students present, without any preparation. He even presented himself for questioning after he had undergone shoulder/arm surgery and was still in a sling, bandages, and cast! The students still grilled him with questions about divestment from Israel and he still gave strong answers back.
(Just to get an idea of what a student union/government can be capable of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSE_Students%27_Union)
>Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like DeGioia or anybody else in the administration can make similar boasts of contact and interaction with students. It seems like an endemic problem at the highest levels of administration at Georgetown and it filters down to the lowest of echelons. Students are treated like cash cows and cattle that can be prodded and moved along until they are out in 4 years. There is no attempt on the part of the administration to foster relationships between students and faculty. Maybe those who are in charge are afraid the idyllic world of their ivory tower will be shattered or maybe they are afraid they will rightfully get an earful from students putting them to shame about their failings and how they are not serving the interests of the students and other university stakeholders.
Nov 16 2008 at 6:59 p.m.
Will,
Thanks very much for reading and taking the time to respond. I don't have any problem with you disagreeing with me, but I think you may have misinterpreted part of what I wrote. First, I never in any way, shape or form said that Dr. DeGioia does not spend enough time helping the university. In fact, I made a concerted effort to give credit where credit is due and point out many things he does do to help the university. My point was that I think he should also spend a bit more time interacting with students. Please do not confuse the two.
Furthermore, I do not suggest that Dr. DeGioia is "some all-knowing person that can manage every detail of an entity as large as Georgetown." More face-to-face time with students does not require managing every detail of the university.
Lastly, please do not level your criticisms for my personal viewpoint on The Hoya. I speak only for myself.
Thanks, Will.
Bailey
Nov 17 2008 at 2:16 a.m.
Dear Bailey,
You state, "Dr. DeGioia, you need to engage your students more. Make sure you are at Mr. Georgetown, Rangila, Cherry Tree Massacre and the Syracuse basketball game. And don’t just be there. Congratulate the performers. Mingle with the crowd. Ask us how our Georgetown experience has been."
While I cannot speak for all the events you mentioned, I would like to clarify that not only has Dr. DeGioia attended Rangila for the past three years, but each of those years has personally hosted a reception for the SAS board and Rangila choreographers in order to "congratulate" us and "mingle" with us at a time that is not as hectic as the actual show. This gesture is greatly appreciated and, I believe, truly indicative of his desire to "engage" the students.
Best,
Zahra
Nov 17 2008 at 2:36 a.m.
Re: "For one, students are far too often rubbed the wrong way by impersonal, even unfriendly, experiences with services like the Student Health Center ........ They feel as though these operations should exist to help students, yet students are treated like an unwelcome burden when they require that help".
This has been an obvious problem from my perspective and with one recent exception, has not been resolved. It needs to be fixed as of yesterday.
Nov 17 2008 at 9:12 p.m.
The university has been a money pit for years. There is no shortage of donors who stopped because they found out that certain professors were using donations to the university as their own personal slush fund.
The services stay the same or get cut back yet tuition keeps rising. Is this so our dear President DeGioia can take a trip to Davos to enjoy a seven-course meal to discuss world hunger?
It's poor administration and rising tuition that leaves such a bad taste in students mouths after they leave and they often resolve to not let their kids come to Georgetown or toss those donation mailers into the fireplace.
Alumni will often support their old organizations but will never donate a dime to the general fund when they find out where it really goes.
SFS Grad '05