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Leavey Damages Lead to Arrests

Hoya Staff Writer

Published: Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Updated: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 02:08

Leavey 421 ceiling wrecked

Chris Bien/The Hoya

Students damaged The Hoya office’s ceiling while evading DPS

As Hurricane Irene slammed campus early Sunday, three male students' efforts to evade Department of Public Safety officers ended in $1,500 worth of damages to offices on the fourth floor of the Leavey Center and the university pressing criminal charges.

On Sunday morning around 1:13 a.m., the suspects were checking out the university report regarding the dangerous conditions of the loosened shingles on the New Science Center. While on the Leavey Esplanade, the students were told by DPS officers to leave the area, as university officials were worried the heavy metal shingles could become dangerous projectiles, according to DPS Associate Director Joseph Smith.

Instead of following the officers' orders, the three students — two of whom are current staffers of the student media outlet The Voice — fled to The Voice's office on the fourth floor of Leavey with the officers in pursuit, according to Smith. The three locked the door of the office and then decided to avoid capture by breaking through the drop ceiling panels and crawling into the adjacent offices, Smith said.

The suspects, while fleeing through the ceilings of the offices of The Hoya, the Debate Team and Director of Residential Ministry Michelle Siemietkowski, destroyed several ceiling panels and damaged the structural support system in the ceilings.

Smith said that the students could be heard climbing through the ceiling as one of the officers went to retrieve keys to the office. It ultimately became only a matter of time before they surrendered, according to Smith.

"There really was no way to get out," he said.

"The students refused to comply with repeated, reasonable requests from uniformed Department of Public Safety officers," Director of Media Relations Rachel Pugh said. "This required critical resources be diverted during the university's emergency response to Hurricane Irene."

Two of the students turned themselves in after the destruction, but one of the suspects exited through a fourth-floor window and was found on the outcropping overhang connected to the second floor. That suspect sustained serious injuries after dropping two stories and is currently recovering at the Georgetown University Hospital.

The remaining suspects were taken into police custody, and the Metropolitan Police Department has charged all three suspects with destruction of property. This offense can carry fines of up to $5,000 and/or jail time of up to 10 years.

The Student Code of Conduct categorizes such an offense as a Class B violation, which can result in moderate to serious level violations.

First-time violations of the code include sanctions ranging from housing relocation, housing probation, apartment living suspension or housing suspension to possible disciplinary probation or disciplinary suspension for up to two years.

"Category B violations may result in the most severe sanctions when warranted by the nature of the violation or the student's prior record," the code states.

Smith expressed his regret that the students did not initially heed the DPS officers' warnings, stating that the entire event could have been avoided.

"Our interest is to protect university safety," he said. "We want to be here to protect them. We are here to help."

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26 comments

Anonymous
Tue Sep 6 2011 20:46
Look, we are all skirting around the real issue when it comes to DPS, their are some good DPS officers who know what their place is her at GU. But their are a few of them who want to play cop's , they know that they can't get a job at a real police department. Those few are the ones making it bad for the rest of us students. Those few DPS that just don't get it, they are not the Real Police, and never will be. If they had the training and experience they would of gotten a job already at some REAL Police Depatment. We should be thankful about he DPS officers who do care about us, the ones who know their place here. As for the ones that want to play the Police and spoil it for the rest of us. It is time you did some real soul searching, leave this place to the ones who know how to really deal with GU students. The disgruntled DPS officers are the ones who are disgruntled with them and their actions.
GU '13 (never been charged with a disciplinary violation)
Mon Sep 5 2011 18:41
"Grow up"...haha that is so ironic considering how unprofessional and childish DPS officers often are in their confrontations with suspects. Jokes, harassment, and patronizing comments are just the tip of the iceberg in many students interactions with DPS officers whether they have been found in violation of the student code of conduct or are just merely under suspicion. Whats more, just about every student is under suspicion these days as DPS has launched (probably under mandate of the University administration) a poorly strategized and indiscriminately executed witch hunt for anyone in even marginal deviation of the arcane Code of Student Conduct. If DPS is no longer "unexperienced and untrained," then why do almost all students (not just disgruntled employees and troublemakers) believe and have witnessed them still behaving like an unprofessional, overbearing, pejorative Gestapo (minus the effectiveness).

The fact is, DPS, and the Office of Student Conduct for that matter, has deviated away from their self-purported aim of looking after the safety and best interests of the student body as a whole. Instead they have oriented themselves around a punitive and adversarial approach to law enforcement. Not so much unlike America's increasingly farcical criminal (in)justice system actually.

@Grow Up
Fri Sep 2 2011 17:14
No one said DPS stops people for no reason. The complaint was that they use excessive force when they do stop people.
Grow up
Fri Sep 2 2011 11:58
Just a heads up to people reading these dumb comments about how bad DPS is, most of the comments are from disgruntled employees who are just pathetic. Most DPS officers have good intentions and actually try their best to good by the students. You will very seldom hear of the preventative stops or how they help the Georgetown community because of the bias of the few that get in trouble. If you dont want to deal with DOPS than dont go getting yourself in trouble. CONTRARY TO BELIEF, NO DOPS OFFICER WILL STOP YOU FOR NO REASON. Getting in trouble is no fun for the officers or the students. Most of the DPS officers either are ex military, college graduates, ex- municipal/federal police officers or getting their degrees from GU or another local university. The GUPD is no longer unexperienced and untrained. In fact look at the DPS Director, his background is by far the most impressive out of any of the district campus police departments. ANY OFFICER that will tell you about how the staff is horrible and what not is most likely the one who will give you a hard time and is that 1% of LEO's that no longer needs to be employed.
Anonymous
Thu Sep 1 2011 00:24
Hey Alex, your right about them not being real police. Real Police don't need permission to arrest someone. DOPS has to ask "Can I please arrest him, please". "Can I blow my nose please", DOPS can't arrest anyone without an ok.
Alex C.
Thu Sep 1 2011 00:17
@Wayne: It is like you said you don't make moves to any type of law enforcement officer, But you DOPS are not even that. You guys don't even go to a Real Police Academy! I was there with Ben, you guys are bullies.
Curious
Wed Aug 31 2011 22:58
Why is the Great One, Wayne Gretzky, concerned about minor crimes at an American university?
Anonymous
Wed Aug 31 2011 16:35
@Wayne Gretzky: Judging from your privileged knowledge of the officer's adjudication as well as your poor grammar, you are probably a DPS officer (or an aspiring one...yikes). If that is the perspective you are coming from, your comments are all the more troubling. "He is rather lucky that he was pepper sprayed than shot, you do NOT make any moves when talking with any type of law enforcement agency." There are so many things wrong with that statement. For one, I think it would be more accurate to say that all of Georgetown is lucky that DPS officers do not cary guns in the first place. Real police officers carry fire arms because they have extensive training and the faith of their governing body behind them. Yet despite that faith and training, there are myriad examples of officers' mistakes and misconduct leading to the improper discharging of their weapons. Many innocent men, women, and children across the country have been slain by trigger happy officers misinterpreting gestures as threatening. These officers are often (not often enough) held responsible for their decisions, just like everyone else in society is supposed to be. In any respectable court of law an officer would be held accountable for misinterpreting a non-threatening movement as threatening and the consequent damage they caused. Its tough for officers, no doubt about it, but the higher standard of judgement that they should be held to is a fair reflection of the higher level of power they are given. Obviously, Georgetown's administration is not the same as a court of law, hence the officer's acquittal. But to say that this student is lucky he wasn't shot is shameful. This case clearly shows that DPS officers are susceptible to the same misjudgments real police officers are (whoa, they are humans). Unfortunately, it also shows that they, unlike real police officers (most of the time), are not held accountable for those misjudgments. So in light of that lack of accountability in Georgetown's "law enforcement agency," it truly is a godsend that they don't have guns. Can you imagine a group of mediocrely trained gun totting college cops running around the streets of Georgetown with virtual impunity? I shudder at the thought. Finally, your idea that it is common sense to not make any moves around law enforcement personal is just a little much. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that by "when talking" you meant when being questioned or under suspicion of crime. But even then, the average person (clearly not you) does not assume their slightest move could result in a physical assault by the officer. Why? Because the average person is incessantly fed the idea that law enforcement officials have their safety and health in mind at all times (see the end of the article). The average person is not aware, or willfully ignorant, of the fact that most law enforcement officials actually enter on-duty interactions with an adversarial tone, an arsenal of antagonizing tactics, and an often times exaggerated self-preservation impulses. So I would say that it is a little less than common sense. It probably is common sense to you because you are a law enforcement officer of some kind. One, who I hope never carries a gun.
Wayne Gretzkey
Wed Aug 31 2011 14:30
Mr. Trillo, I believe that the officer that anonymous is speaking about was cleared and they found him of no wrong doing. If anonymous wants to say that the officer was wrong for macing the kid than so be it, for all you know its some miserable man who sits at a desk on his department who doesnt like him and doesnt get along with anyone. He is rather lucky that he was pepper sprayed than shot, you do NOT make any moves when talking with any type of law enforcement agency,its usually common sense.
Anonymous
Wed Aug 31 2011 14:15
Well it wasn't random ,he said dops sprayed him cause he made a threatening move toward them. He was by lxr with a buddy , they said he had weapon in his hand. But they never found a weapon. You know how they try to bully us when we are drunk. Power hungry dops.
John Trillo
Wed Aug 31 2011 11:06
Where did this occur at and what happened. I cant stand dops but I doubt they would just spray random kids.
Yikes
Wed Aug 31 2011 10:59
Yeah guys, really. I'm sure you're delighted that a few Voice members acted completely asinine and made some pretty horrible/embarrassing choices; I'm sure you're also upset that your ceiling got damaged. But, umm, I don't know, seems to me the lede here is that a student fell out of a window, dropped to stories, and is in the hospital with serious injuries. Are you so navel-gazing that you can't see that? Or are you actually just incapable of writing a proper news story?
Anonymous
Wed Aug 31 2011 10:45
I know the guy that got maced. I thought he was joking till, I talked to some friends who work GERMS.
John Trillo
Wed Aug 31 2011 03:51
How do you know that DOPS maced a student?
Anonymous
Wed Aug 31 2011 00:17
Hey they are lucky DPS didn't pepper spray. I hear that DPS likes spray people, they sprayed a guy back in July for no reason. You guys from the Voice are lucky.
@Anonymous
Tue Aug 30 2011 22:26
I don't.
Anonymous
Tue Aug 30 2011 20:25
Hilarious story until you get to the part about the kid falling two stories. We can feel bad for stupid people too.
diffferent @wondering
Tue Aug 30 2011 17:35
I would bet that they just don't know the names of the students yet or only know by rumor. I believe it took a really long time for the names to get out during the DMT thing. I think that's just not information that Georgetown gives out readily. I imagine they'll post names when they get them.

On another note, there shouldn't be a different standard for students who are accused of sexual assault and students who are accused of running away from DPS and doing property damage.

If you're a person who feel it's a newspaper's job to name accused perpetrators because it's in the public interest, or people should have to deal with the publicity that comes with their criminal actions, then I think that applies much more strongly to sexual assault than property damage. Not knowing who these kids doesn't really hurt me (I mean, I would know who not to invite to my parties because I like my stuff and don't want it broken, I guess?), but not knowing who's a danger to my female friends comes with a lot of potential danger to them, and I care much more about them than my ceiling.

Which brings me to another point... How in the world does it occur to you to make your escape into the ceiling???

wondering
Tue Aug 30 2011 16:52
Sorry if I wrote in a confusing way. When I mentioned sexual assault, I was only alluding to the fact that news stories about sexual assault follow different rules when naming names. I was trying to say that the the perpetrators (not victims) should have been named in The Hoya article, as has been previous practice. I'm implying that they are being protected because they are journalists. My bad about using the word "victim" in my post.
@Wondering
Tue Aug 30 2011 15:38
What do victims of sexual assault have to do with this? It's not common practice to name victims' names at all. When people get robbed just off campus, or assaulted, or when their rooms get broken into, it's not your business who it was, and The Hoya doesn't make it your business.

Besides, these aren't victims of crimes, these are suspects of a crime. What in the world are you talking about?





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